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Re: The NRA has never shot anybody, why do they get the blame for crazy non-NRA members killing people? Guns don't kill people crazy people do.

I do not know how relyable  http://www.factcheck.org/2012/12/gun-rhetoric-vs-gun-facts/    is I have seen other issues there that conflicted with official statisitcs before.

Quote"
181 School Shootings Since Columbine?

Rep. Donna Edwards on ABC's "This Week" said "since Columbine, there have been 181 of these school shootings." That's an exaggeration.

Her office said the Democratic congresswoman got her information from the Brady Campaign — which has a fact sheet on its website that lists 201 "major school shootings" since 1997 at colleges, universities, high schools and elementary schools. But that list is padded with incidents that could hardly be called "major school shootings" — including a dozen that didn't happen on school grounds and 16 that weren't shootings at all but either alleged plots to kill others or cases where a gun was brought to school but not fired.

By our count, there were 62 school shootings since the Columbine High School massacre on April 20, 1999, that resulted in more than one student, teacher or school employee being killed or injured — a description that could fit "major school shooting." There were another 68 where one student, teacher or school employee was killed (not counting suicides) or injured.

That's 130 school shootings since Columbine — a shocking high number, but about a quarter fewer than Edwards claimed.

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Point of this quote is if your not carefull spreading "fud" can have undesirable consequences.  especially when it comes to labeling people or misrepresenting the real cause and effect etc.

That "guns don't kill people, crazy people do"   is total "FUD"  and is mostlikely derived from organization like "brady campaign"

"guns don't kill people, people kill people". <<--- that is NOT fud.

the fud version is like "perverted justice" redirection of the publics attention away from the real danger (known aquantance) when it comes to protecting children from predators

This is the kind of crap that needs to be stopped. Garbage put out by people like "Ann Coulter"  "Ann Coulter: Crazies need to be committed, not given civil-rights protection"   http://mobile.wnd.com/2013/01/guns-dont-kill-people-the-mentally-ill-do/

first off Someone with anxiety or PTSD that affects 1 major life activitiy is protected under the ADA of 1990.  IT is NOT a crime to be disabled or a person with a disability.   It is NOT a crime to have a mental illness.   What Ann Coultier is advocating is criminalizing average people, just because they are different from her.      

I bet if they were to break down the actual numbers of total deaths by firearms the number of killings done by the socalled mental cases is far less than the ones done by people with no mental issues.   Or atleast the mentally ill is no more likely than any other to do it.

People get miss labeled "mentally ill" all the time.  I am labeled "mentally ill" even though It is a "psychological injury" occuring over decades. my reasoning and moral compass is completely intact.

Ann has gone off her rockers in regards to the "commited, and not given civil rights protections".   You do not have to strip civil rights in order to committ a person.   an example is put them in a mental institution instead of death row.  your still committing the person without removing their rights under constitutional/ civil rights law.

Ann had indirectly accused me of being a criminal, When I have NEVER done anything wrong in my life that warrants the "criminal" label. all because I have the "mentally ill" label attached to me. Even though I am not.

Why am I doing this All?   I really hate "witch hunts"   that targets innocent people due to poorly "placed labels".   Like mental illness.   which, by the way has no clear definition.

http://www.bmj.com/content/346/bmj.f3509

Here is really good read IMHO

http://realitysandwich.com/82704/ultimate_oxymoron_industrial_civilization_and_mental_health/

https://sites.google.com/site/drtimthornton/courses/conceptual-issues-in-nursing/is-mental-illness-a-myth

here another good one and a must read ---VVV

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/rethinking-psychology/201307/the-new-definition-mental-disorder

I really like my privacy, its nothing personal against anyone here. especially in light of having accounts locked on sodahead.

Re: The NRA has never shot anybody, why do they get the blame for crazy non-NRA members killing people? Guns don't kill people crazy people do.

@Kat I agree with you in regards to NRA. BUT, I take serious offense to the "Crazy people do" alternative.

because the "crazy people do" is just as "misleading" as "accusing the NRA" as being responsible.

I am going to use the "going postal" as an example because that one is old enough to not get people "too emotional",  unlike say the indian reservation mass shooting that happened not long ago.

Why did the postal service emplyee go on a shooting rampage?    What caused the person to snap?  I still don't think the guy "went postal" due to being dearanged, or crazy..  I think it was pressure due to calousness by "society" and "employer/coworkers/customers" That the guy felt he had to take such drastic action to get out of a bad situation.

I think the reason "crazy", "mental illness", "going postal"is used , is mearly the tools used to "shift blame" away from the "root cause" that caused these people to snap and do something they otherwise would not have done.

These people were backed into a corner, they viewed no way out, due to society calousness towards people in distress, or people who are asking for help to get out of an abusive situation.  Because of (our) calousness towards other people, disrespectful, not standing up for, not stopping abusive bosses, denying help when its requested, lack of "empathy" towards their struggles, etc etc etc.  These people "fight" in "fight and flight"  was triggerd to "exztreme action" that lead to themselves and/or other people being killed or seriously harmed.

I been backed into "many corners" where there was no precieved out.   The thoughts are there, when you feel your life is at risk or in danger.  You either want to "run" or "lash out", this is "survival instinct". A "normal response" to danger. The greater the percieved danger the greater the response. 

If you don't give a person a place to "run  to", to get into a better situation, what is left?  "Fight"    To do nothing is to be harmed or die.  Which is a super strong motivator, to act.   That does NOT make a person crazy., or mentally ill, or dearanged.  We just label them that, so we can justify going on as business as usual on how we treat other people.   We don't want to admit it is more our faults that they snapped.  

I am not condoning the actions of the shooters,  I am simply saying there is FAR MORE to why the shootings/bombing occure, that has Nothing to do with the firearms themselves, and less to do with the person who did the act of desperation. And far more to do with how we interact with one another leading up to the act of desperation.   Firearms are simply tools, They are NOT the cause.  You can take all the guns away, but the underlying problem remains.  Without firearms, when people do go "postal" it will be much harder to stop them, because we will have lost the tool that will end it quickly  "firearms"

One of the Only reason I have not joined the NRA is because of its ties to ALEC.

I am for the "stand your ground" except for the components pushed for by ALEC itself.  "Stand your ground" with NRA, and  law inforcement input would been ok.  NRA is about our rights and being able to protect ourselves. They NEVER condone abuse of firearms.  ALEC is to blame in that, not NRA.

Those that work for the "Brady Campaign" Have constantly misdirected and outright lied about NRA intent and actions.    NRA is actually for "gun regulation" but only "gun regulations that actually work".  NRA does not want a repeat of bad regulations that have demonstrated to fail miserably in curbing violence.  for example "registration of firearms"  has NOT stopped a single badguy from ever harming another person.  here is an example of this in action

http://www.bradycampaign.org/brady-campaign-statement-on-nra-announcement

Those so called sensible gun regulation mentioned by "brady campaign" would not stop gun violence at all.   registration, smaller clip size (bring more clips), retriction of assesories that do not make a firearm more leathal, but only succeeds in making them look less scary.(guns are still just as leathal after said accesories been removed), Biometric lock,(fails if battery goes dead, cut on finger, doesn't recognize the authorized user, authorized user is unable to stop the badguy due to failure of biometric reader.)  etc.

What NRA wants is increasing the punishment for those who actually commit the crime with the firearms.  Give prosecuters stronger tools to go after people who commit crimes with firearms. to Establish "free training" for those who want to get firearms. To allow guards who been psychologicly been cleared on school property with firearms with "secret service" level training in their use. or to have said firearms secured in a, bank like gun-vault, at the school in case of its need.

Most, if not all mass shootings have occured in "No - gun zones"   NRA realizes this and was trying to make it so that only the RIGHT people had access to firearms in order to stop such shootings. Posting of no-firearms did not work, turning it into a prison does not work.(treating every day people like criminals creates more violence not less.)   Or offering other suggestions that would actually work.  NRA understands that.

I really like my privacy, its nothing personal against anyone here. especially in light of having accounts locked on sodahead.

Re: Spiders... Like them or not?

I love spiders eventhough I am scared of them due to ignorance.   They help play a vital role on controling unwanted pests.

bats are better at it though, too bad they are getting wiped out :(

I really like my privacy, its nothing personal against anyone here. especially in light of having accounts locked on sodahead.

Re: Please treat June 12 as your last day.

@lady

If it wasn't for corporations(ISP and content holders) acting like abusive fathers,  Then we wouldn't need "big UNCLE" (FCC)
 to protect us from father beating us black and blue everyday.

The Corporations have brought thie on themselves.  Net nuetrality has nothing to do with censuring you and I. its just to keep corporations in check.

Also FCC is NOT restricting, or censuring by declaring "Broadband as a utility"   Its the corporations that were censuring by throttling broadband, and such.   FCC is trying to stop the corporations from censuring the internet.   Especially since corporations not bound to follow the "constitution" like government is.

Lady I do not know who's propaganda you been listening too, but in the case of "Net nuetrality" what the FCC is doing is protecting the "people" and "small business" , and "startups" from being abused by the "super elites" (comcast, AT&T, centrylink, verizon, etc..   broadband has become the backbone to communication and is replacing "landline phone"  We are running into another "Bell" situation, but with a far greater impact, because "internet" can do so much more than just talk to one another.

I do not view FCC as a big brother.    I view it as a "check and balance"  to ensure "fair play"  for all services FCC oversees, for all parties involved.

only thing FCC has done is force corporations to "addapt" and to move away from their abusive, anti social, anti compitition, monopolistic practices.

And in my view corporations will NEVER be people.   So they do not have freedom to do what ever the &*ll they want, that infringes upon a "Natural person's rights".  And in the case of FCC actions on net Nuetrality, FCC is saying the same thing I am that corporations have stepped over the line and needs to have their abusive practices stopped.

I really like my privacy, its nothing personal against anyone here. especially in light of having accounts locked on sodahead.

as far as I can tell, sodaheads not doing so good as a polling place

I am not sure how frequent the polls were submittend when it was user submitted, so I am not sure how to compare in regards to if polls are being submitted a voted on compared to before the lockout.

I went there to see how it was doing on the polls, because I had a disturbing thought about why they would suddenly lock us out of our accounts.  It gives them a large user base that they could artificially vote on behalf of users using the meta data that was collected.  Like the IP address. etc.    To make it look like real people were voting certain way on issues.


As I was scanning to see just how many new recent polls were done, there were not many, since the lockout. 

One I came accross was a "fox news politics" who left a question in entertainment when it was really politics and involves a serious issue about national sovernty. Question was about whether we should abandon or go forward with the secret trade deals like TPP. 

Why the hell was it in entertainment to begin with?  so far it has zero votes.   but there were other topics but few.  What I noticed was it is hovering about 200-300 votes.   for new entries since the lockout.  especially in the politics/news.

I voted only once because I wanted to see if it would actually work.  I was testing if they locked out the user voting. In order to manipulate poles using our user meta data to impersonate people or not.    They did not lock the voting but it doesn't mean they are not or will not use our meta dsata to give false votes to scew the polls a certain way, especially when it gets closer to elections.

Based on the few polls I am not sure if sodahead is going to contiue to function unless they charge a arm and a leg to the news agencies and such. 

Lets help speed it along to its death by boycotting it even the polls.   without the user generated votes its dead no matter how much the organizations pay to post their polls.   Eventually if no-one votes, the organizations will abandon sodahead too.

Now I just had another real disturbing thought.

swagbucks bought sodahead for 61million   I strongly suspect by closing the accounts they knew it would kill the site.  If this is true, then why pay 61 million for it if you kill  the polling itself, especially when you claim that will be your focus?    What is left that is actually worth MORE THAN 61 million dollars??   our accounts and all the asociated data on us as former users.

I think this buy out was more a slight of hands and misdirections as to why the buyout occured.

I also noticed it won't let you look at how people voted unless you vote.  This is disturbing to be because the polls can be minipulated then for example I vote yes maybe they add other votes to boost total numbers up.   Especially if not many people are polling.

PS I voted on the Trade agreement poll, because it was too important not too, I voted "NO"  that it should be abbandoned.
64% say abbandon the agreements.

I have no more intention to vote again, other than to stop in periodicly to keep track of how many people are voting and how many polls are being submitted.

and making dang sure that ad blockers and such are turned "on", so they get no revenue from me when I do go.

I really like my privacy, its nothing personal against anyone here. especially in light of having accounts locked on sodahead.

Re: Did any of your account has hacked by hackers?

I had a strong password on hotmail yet they got in despite 12 digit No words or dates. I strongly suspect that one was an inside job.  where Microsoft failed to put in a blocker for repeated entries from same source, to stop brute force hack.

My email hack was used for spaming my Address book.

I really like my privacy, its nothing personal against anyone here. especially in light of having accounts locked on sodahead.

Re: Please treat June 12 as your last day.

LOL  seems most of you that are seeing wonky for the first time today, is the stuff listed as wonky  and common everyday stuff.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/10/29/absurd-facebook-requesting-government-id-to-unlock-accounts-again/

facebooks done the photo id thing before nothing new there.

I really like my privacy, its nothing personal against anyone here. especially in light of having accounts locked on sodahead.

Re: Please treat June 12 as your last day.

its june 12 internet still here

I really like my privacy, its nothing personal against anyone here. especially in light of having accounts locked on sodahead.

Re: Is the liberal left destroying our nation?

Apologize beforehand "sorry for this little rant" this is why I prefer chatrooms over forums don't know where to stop lol.
And I don't like getting taken out of context which is one of the reasons my posts tend to run longer, I am simply trying to be clear. I have a hard time puting complex issues in only a few words without loosing context.

This may not sound like it fits here but it does because there is plenty of confusion as to WHO is actually pulling the strings that leads to this so called "religious freedom"

following is in regards to blaming the progressives for the problems we are in as a nation.  It would be sad if you fell for the elitist propaganda of slight of hands and misdirections, and outright lies.

Most of the progressives are not elitist, but everyday people, joined through REAL actual grassroots movements.

Tea party is A Faux grassroots movement. DO NOT confuse tea party with progressives or even grassroots movements. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brendan-demelle/study-confirms-tea-party-_b_2663125.html

Follow the "dark money" like the origions of the "ACA" which started with the "heritiage foundation" as far back as 1998. and a LOT of the policies are comming out of ALEC "discised" as bills that might "sound like" they origionate from a progressive group. But when you actually look at the "text" of the bill, it only favors the financial and global elites like koch brothers, who are decidedly "extremist libertarians". "Americans for prosperity" is a "progressive sounding name" but it is in fact a front for koch brothers. "Citizen's united" is a "progressive sounding name" but it is in fact a "libertarian group, financial elites, and corporate elites". Tea party is HARD CORE libertarian, "Heavily Koch brother funded" which is where a LOT of what you think is comming from progressives is actually, drived inside the "tea party".

If you been getting your information from "mainstream media" I can understand why you would be confused. since most of the mainstream media is actually owned by "libertarian style mindset" Ever wonder why TPP is not getting discussed in mainstream on dailly basis? TPP and TTIP is a libertarian's wet dream because they are written by them.

You really need to look into A.L.E.C. many if not most bills are written by them, that are destroying America and the world. Which are then submitted to which ever politician is duped into taking them.  A Politician in florida forgot to take off the ALEC mission statement from the bill before submitting it wholesale, Before it was redacted and had said mission statement removed while the bill itself stayed intact and resubmitted.  It was the progressive watchdog group that caught it coppied it and put it on open internet where everyone could see for themselves what is really going on as far as who is actually pulling the strings.     In otherwords ALEC was caught red handed AlEC is a libertarian front. 

Here is one of the cofounders of ALEC and heritiage foundation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Weyrich <-- its this form of so called "religious freedom" and "moral Majority" that is being pushed.  When its not "religious freedom" at all.  Its https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proselytism    "Proselytism"   discised as "religious freedom"

Just to point out that I am not being all one-sided  the anti-gun and disarnament is being pushed hard by the "extreme lefty. " like the "brady campaign".      "Brady campaign" would only work in a world where homosapiens was NON-violent on a DNA level.   "In a world, where man has no sin" To quote "Serenity" the movie.  <--- this last quote would be in reference to the extremist righty who want to disarm the population for their own ends (tyranny).

the progressive left is trying to restore equality to the USA By blocking things like TPP, TTIP, fracking, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_Pipeline  , Other related Tar-sand pipelines, pushing for clean energy( what ever that might be), demanding labeling of GMO, Banning of toxic pesitcides killing us,  reducing the wealth disparity,(trickle down ecconemy never works for soiciety in the long run), over turning citizens united, over turning hobby lobby, overturning and restoring "cororation personhood" back to "corporate entity", restoring regulations that keep corporations from abusing and preying on the consumer, restoring accountability of corporation wrongdoing, demanding transparity to dark money in politics,  etc.    These things that we are trying to stop and or restore or fix is what was and is actually destroying America.  

I honestly don't think you have any real clue what progressive is.  Its about stoing abuse by powerful peole or organizations and keeping them in check, that includes keping the government in check, like removing the "patriot act" as example, which violates many of the bill of rights.

progressives are also the ones saying that religious freedom has limits just like freedom of speech.  We want balance, not control. We also believe that others should not forced their way of life upon other in most cases , like not forcing your employees to practice the same religion as the employer.

ALEC links

http://www.brookings.edu/research/articles/2013/12/06-american-legislative-exchange-council-jackman

Quote "During the 2011-2012 legislative session, 132 bills based on ALEC models were introduced in the states. Democrats sponsored nearly 10% of those bills, while Republicans sponsored more than 90%. Nearly two-thirds of those bills were introduced in state lower chambers, while only 34% were introduced in upper chambers. Of those legislators who sponsored ALEC model legislation, 57% can be explicitly connected to ALEC. However, that does not necessarily preclude the other legislators from having ALEC ties; ALEC does not disclose the names of their legislative members, so this figure is based primarily on information from leaked documents."

the anti woman choice comes out of ALEC as well, or some of them do.

OUCH-->>> http://www.prwatch.org/news/2011/07/10880/alec-bills-wisconsin

http://www.alecexposed.org/wiki/ALEC_Exposed

point is a lot of what your blaming on progressive actually origionate with groups like ALEC.

I really like my privacy, its nothing personal against anyone here. especially in light of having accounts locked on sodahead.

Re: Is the liberal left destroying our nation?

hear hear @ProudSaul

not to mention forcing "bosses religious beliefs" on the employees.  or Allowing Bosses to speak their own beliefs as if it was their employee's own beliefs.  "This is  a libertarian belief systems".  where they think they have the right to FORCE everyone else to believe in the same things they themselves believe.

Libertarians have gotten a hold of the supreme court justice somehow, in regards to the two I just mentioned.. where they dictated that "freedom of religion": is the right to FORCE other's to follow elites own religious beliefs. Which the constitution explicetly forbids.

I am going to head this one off right now
Gay people are NOT forcing their beliefs on others, when it comes to getting married in a church.  They are simply conduction business in a church "a transaction" of joining households under god.  They are not forcing the church or its members  to believe that being gay is ok or not. Its just a business deal made with the represenetives of God for a union.
That's it.

Libertarians are the ones that HOLD the bulk of the wealth and are using it to misdirect the public, confuse the bublic, and out right lie to the public.  Because the "united well informed public" is a thorn in their sides of a government run by them,  for them. think: koch brothers

I really like my privacy, its nothing personal against anyone here. especially in light of having accounts locked on sodahead.